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High Definition Video for Independent Filmmakers
A How To Guide for Digital Filmmakers
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Thursday, June 30, 2005
Thoughts on computer hardware migration....
...so folks have been emailing and asking What To Buy lately. Most are looking to buy a system for a particular project, but I've been starting to think about what I want to buy and use going forward a year or two from now.
I like the idea of BlackMagic's soon-to-be-shipped Multibridge Extreme & Multibridge Studio - they are essentially an SD/HD capture card, HD/SD up/downconverter, HD-SDI-DVI converter all in one rackmount box that connects to your computer by a small, inexpensive PCI Express or PCI-X card that is simply a plug with no brains or guts (or minimal) on the card - all the real smarts live in the rackmount box. This is great for a number of reasons, including:
1.) You can upgrade from PCI-X to PCI Express by merely replacing the little stub card, not an expensive capture card
2.) If you want to be able to hook it up to another machine, you only need a second stub card (or whatever nice name they have for it is), and you can disconnect/reconnect a cable (don't know if it's hot or live swap capable thought) rather than having to open up two computers to deinstall/install cards. One minute changeover instead of 20 minute changeover. Want to be able to use it on any of 1, 2, 5, or 10 machines? Just buy more cheap stubs and keep the computers in cabling reach.
Since they are already promoting it as Mac and PC compatible, I'm pretty certain it should work in Apple's Intel based PowerMacs that will ship in 2007. Long life indeed!
Then I worried (because I do that a lot) that some cards purchased for G5 PowerMacs might not work in Intel based PowerMacs. I don't think there will be a hardware problem there - there are cards that work unmodified in Macs & Windows PCs already today, such as BlackMagic's video capture cards. The bigger challenge is whether the manufacturers will provide MacIntel drivers, and at what cost. This is a big maybe - I've had not one, but TWO multi-hundred dollar SCSI cards get orphaned because someone (Adaptec) didn't want to make drivers for the new version of the operating system.
This happens with products like printers and scanners all the time - new OS comes out, and they don't make a driver for their three year old printer. One would HOPE standards for $500-$2500 cards would be different from $50-$300 office grade computer equipment, but no promises.
Anyway, the point of all this is:
1.) bus agnostic devices (PCI-X or PCI Express) sound like a good idea, and all other things being equal, are probably a better idea than a card that only works on one type of bus.
2.) some cards will work on MacIntels in the future, provided the manufacturers make drivers for'em, so that'll be a good migration path too.
Also, been chatting with some folks about Final Touch HD - it isn't really real time, especially out the HD-SDI port. But when new Macs (G5 or Intel) ship with PCI Express (hopefully within a year), this situation should dramatically improve. Whether that will allow for the holy grail of 1080p24 RGB 4:4:4 footage displaying color corrected in real time out of dual link HD-SDI ports remains to be seen, and probably the developer doesn't even know for sure if that'll be possible (since that'll depend on unannounced PCI Express based HD-SDI cards that I haven't heard even rumors about yet). BUT it is a faster overall solution than Final Cut Pro for high quality color correction.
-mike
I like the idea of BlackMagic's soon-to-be-shipped Multibridge Extreme & Multibridge Studio - they are essentially an SD/HD capture card, HD/SD up/downconverter, HD-SDI-DVI converter all in one rackmount box that connects to your computer by a small, inexpensive PCI Express or PCI-X card that is simply a plug with no brains or guts (or minimal) on the card - all the real smarts live in the rackmount box. This is great for a number of reasons, including:
1.) You can upgrade from PCI-X to PCI Express by merely replacing the little stub card, not an expensive capture card
2.) If you want to be able to hook it up to another machine, you only need a second stub card (or whatever nice name they have for it is), and you can disconnect/reconnect a cable (don't know if it's hot or live swap capable thought) rather than having to open up two computers to deinstall/install cards. One minute changeover instead of 20 minute changeover. Want to be able to use it on any of 1, 2, 5, or 10 machines? Just buy more cheap stubs and keep the computers in cabling reach.
Since they are already promoting it as Mac and PC compatible, I'm pretty certain it should work in Apple's Intel based PowerMacs that will ship in 2007. Long life indeed!
Then I worried (because I do that a lot) that some cards purchased for G5 PowerMacs might not work in Intel based PowerMacs. I don't think there will be a hardware problem there - there are cards that work unmodified in Macs & Windows PCs already today, such as BlackMagic's video capture cards. The bigger challenge is whether the manufacturers will provide MacIntel drivers, and at what cost. This is a big maybe - I've had not one, but TWO multi-hundred dollar SCSI cards get orphaned because someone (Adaptec) didn't want to make drivers for the new version of the operating system.
This happens with products like printers and scanners all the time - new OS comes out, and they don't make a driver for their three year old printer. One would HOPE standards for $500-$2500 cards would be different from $50-$300 office grade computer equipment, but no promises.
Anyway, the point of all this is:
1.) bus agnostic devices (PCI-X or PCI Express) sound like a good idea, and all other things being equal, are probably a better idea than a card that only works on one type of bus.
2.) some cards will work on MacIntels in the future, provided the manufacturers make drivers for'em, so that'll be a good migration path too.
Also, been chatting with some folks about Final Touch HD - it isn't really real time, especially out the HD-SDI port. But when new Macs (G5 or Intel) ship with PCI Express (hopefully within a year), this situation should dramatically improve. Whether that will allow for the holy grail of 1080p24 RGB 4:4:4 footage displaying color corrected in real time out of dual link HD-SDI ports remains to be seen, and probably the developer doesn't even know for sure if that'll be possible (since that'll depend on unannounced PCI Express based HD-SDI cards that I haven't heard even rumors about yet). BUT it is a faster overall solution than Final Cut Pro for high quality color correction.
-mike
Comments:
Mike,
Is there anything the BlackMagic HD PRO capture card can do that the multibridge can't? If not, the multibridge seems like the best choice by far.
- jeremiah black
Is there anything the BlackMagic HD PRO capture card can do that the multibridge can't? If not, the multibridge seems like the best choice by far.
- jeremiah black
Jeremiah - frankly, not to my knowledge. If you get one of the new, unshipped products, ASSUMING it works well and smoothly (and the first Multibridge had some teething problems that appear to be all sorted out now), from what they were saying at NAB (and I was in their booth) it _should_ do everything the DeckLink HD Pro does and then some. But it's an unshipped product, and specs haven't been finalized and published. But it sure looks promising. As with any brand new product, wait and see and make sure it all works right before committing a project to it.
-mike
-mike
I have been planning to buy the Decklinnk HD card for my PC for about a year, but I have always held back because of the expensive motherboard and CPUs (Dual Opteron or Xeon) I'll be needing to upgrade. So I like how Decklink seems to be portraying the multibridge as working on plain old motherboards as long as they have PCI Express. But will it really work on regular motherboards? I hope they dont come out with their certified MB list with only server class hardware. Do you know anything about that?
Anonymous - I'm pretty sure the specs are going to be the same - all they've done is take the guts off the card and shoved them in a box that lives outside the computer. The amount of data to be processed is the same, only the interface has changed. Trust me, if they could make a DeckLink card work off of a toaster, they would - the specs are what's required to make it work. So don't look to this new hardware to be a panacea. It's just a more convenient/different form factor.
-mike
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