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Monday, September 12, 2005

Mike's Best of IBC 2005 Picks (so far, updated) 

So Martijn Schroevers has done a great job of scouring the show floor for indie related stuff. So far, here are my current picks for Best of Show as far as indies are concerned:

So far, the most significant new stuff for indies at the show is (and this is my ranking):

1.) Panasonic's HVX-200

-the Do It All camera - 720p (24 or 60), 1080p24, 1080i30 for the NTSC version. Also does DV and DVCPRO 50.

If they added a bigger imaging chip, direct to disk recording (note - Focus Enhancements will be offering such a thing), and replaceable lenses, this would be the ultimate indie camera for under $15K. Of course, for that reason, that probably won't happen any time soon. DV to tape, and everything else to P2 cards or direct to disk via a FireStore device (FireWire cable goes to a portable dedicated hard drive, see other announcement from today).

FireWire, P2, DV tape, and USB 2.0 interfaces. I'll be curious to know if the P2 data can be read back over FireWire to a computer running an NLE or has to go through a P2 card reader - probably a reader. At NAB, the 5 card reader is something like $2K, expect that to come down or a cheaper alternative. The official solution is to get a couple/three P2 cards, load one or two up and dump'em to a portable hard drive device Panasonic will offer. The indie solution will be the FireStore device, hands down.

$6K for the basic camera with no cards, $10K for a camera and two 8GB cards, $2500ish or so for the hard drive reader which was something like 60 or 80 GB (sorry, no time to backtrack my notes right now). (And around $8K for camera and FireStore - the clear winner - $12K or $8K and you can shoot the same amount in a day?)

But I expect this to be THE indie camera next year. 24p, 16:9, high def, 4:2:2 codec, native codec editing in many NLE packages (including Final Cut Pro), so this will be clearly the best bang for the buck unless the JVC GY-HD100U exceeds expectations.

2.) Cine-one indi

It's a 35mm adaptor for the Sony HVR-Z1U camera (or other 1/3 inch chip cameras), allowing it to be adapted by choice to 35mm cine-, Minolta or Canon compatible lenses, $3000, shipping early next year.

Hopefully, they'll have a model for the HVX-200 soon as well. More on the indi here, and read the comments as someone has translated the German for me.

3.) AJA intros $1800 Kona LH board

...that does pretty much everything you'd realistically want - SD, HD, analog, digital, in, and out. This card will literally handle all of your input and output needs no matter what you're doing (OK, not HDCAM SR 4:4:4 RGB, but virtually no indies use that). The lack of upconversion to HD is the only extra goodie I see lacking. But for general purpose acquisition, editing, and output, this is THE card. Working on a doc and don't know what formats you'll be getting footage in? With a G5, Final Cut Pro, and the Kona LH, you can literally handle ANYTHING that comes in the door.

4.) BlackMagic cuts prices on DeckLink HD line

DeckLink HD Pro 4:2:2 now $995 from $1495, DeckLink HD Pro 4:4:4 now $1495 from $1995, etc. Also HDLink 2, PCIe products for PC, and driver updates with new up/downconversion capabilities.

5.) Sony's XDCAM HD

Not due until NAB (April) 2006, but will offer a new quality level between HDV (nice consumer) and HDCAM (high end professional), and maybe FCP will support it by then too. (Here's my summary of that tech.) 18, 25, or 35 megabit per second long GOP MPEG-2. If that doesn't mean anything to you, don't worry about it - basically, a higher bitrate HDV, with better timecode support, 4 channels of uncompressed audio, and tapeless to boot - it's on a disc in a cartridge, not a tape. Why #5? If it were shipping sooner, I'd be more excited. But it isn't, so I'm not.

Runner Up or Also Ran?

The JVC GY-HD100U is officially here - if it isn't shipping yet, expected to be in days, maybe a week or two. But it isn't on the list because, based on the limited reports I've been getting, nobody's super excited about this camera that's used it, or especially that has played with it side by side with the Sony HVR-Z1U. The Sony is less costly, higher resolution, but lacks interchangeable lenses and a true 24p mode (you can field blend 50i to get 25p then conform that to 24p - a lengthy workaround but a valid one). Things looked promising at NAB, but I haven't heard anybody rave about it since then. Martijn Schroevers, on the scene at IBC, described it as thus:

The picture looks quite video-ish and harsh. The footage I saw that was shot with the HD100 with the mini35 setup looked much better. But that was shot outside in bright daylight and not in an exhibition hall. Here they have that setup too and inside it looks underexposed. Maybe the difference with the Sony Z1 and the Panasonic HVX200 is the difference between 1080 and 720. The incredible detail of 1080 might give the film look...


Dark Horse Contenders

With Canon about to debut their new HDV cameras, they too could suddenly vault onto and up this list. However, if you look at the usual time tables between product announcement and release (for example, Sony's HDV camcorders and Panasonic's HVX-200), it is likely to take up to 9 months for the products to ship. Timeliness is part of relevance - the sooner it's out, the more it matters. But it is likely to be an HDV camera, and I'm more in favor of Panasonic's DVCPRO HD format, with more color resolution and ostensibly lighter compression (well...arguable), and the reputation of the DVX-100A to build on.

Thomson announced a new camcorder (2/3" CCDs, $20K, disk based recording) and recorder. I don't know what recording formats it uses, lens not included, or what varieties of HD it records to, or whether it records to SD as well, etc. This new format promises to allow shooting and recording to Iomega Rev Pro or compact flash media, then copy the files off via USB 2.0 or FireWire to whatever you wish. If the codec (compresor decompressor) used is supported natively by editing systems such as Avid, Apple, and Adobe, this should be a very significant camera for indie production.

More to follow as I get further reports from Martijn (or anyone else willing to contribute).

-mike
Comments:
i was @ ibc on friday... for my taste it was too big... i had a hard time getting to the stuff i wanted to see. there was no free wifi. over all some nice new things. i was really amazed when i saw the blackmagic stand with pc's... i only madea few pix, mike if you want the blackmagic stand pictures, email, and i will zip them up;-) l8r
 
I hope Martijn or somebody else goes to check out the Grass Valley booth:

At IBC 2005, Grass Valley unveiled its new "Infinity Series" line of 2/3" 3CCD professional camcorders, VTR-like recorders/players and digital media drives that will feature internal Iomega REV PRO removable disk and Compact Flash solid state storage, plus the ability to connect to a variety of external recording media via USB 2.0 and FireWire ports.
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Both MPEG-2 (I-frame and long GOP) and JPEG2000 for HD recording (JPEG2000 [is] the standard for digital cinema video distribution).


Sounds at least close to Mike's dream machine for under $20K (you do have a lens, don't you? :O)
 
The announced price for the new Grass Valley 2/3" Pro HD Camcorder was $20,000 in the U.S.
 
One additional piece of info for HDV users: Sony has a new HDV deck (recorder-player) on display at IBC, clearly stating, on the little card next to it, that it is a FUTURE model.
So I felt it did not made sense to ask a Sony rep about technical details or date of availability (apart from that, it was very busy in the Sony booth).
Main observations: the new deck will handle LARGE format tapes and is (all in all) about 30% larger than the current M10-deck. Looked like it will have all the usual bells and whistles.
 
Hmm, it looks like we might see an HDV Canon XLx before the GLx: http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Canon-to-Announce-HDV-Camcorder-Next-Week.htm. Which is how I'd prefer it, really.
 
HI All,
Just back from IBC. My best pick is BARN from the Electronic Farm. Server maintained Archive solution for TV traffic, client updating, transcoding. and much much more. With Farmers Wife and Barn, you can do such amazing things and have the volume and complexity of a big house, even if you are not so big...
Biggest disapointment was Silicon Color. Tried there stand every day and they weren't there. Maybe moved? who knows. We were dead set on buying Final Touch HD for our new HD Online suite and alas couldn't have a look. Any news on what happended?
Paul
 
Paul from Pogo -

from Roland on their website when someone asked about their dissapearance:

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We are sorry that we so deeply disappointed you. There should have never been a booth with our name on it since we never committed to such an awkward space. We were thinking about hosting and event in Amsterdam but have instead decided to do a much larger event in Europe during October in at least 3 countries. Our website will have more info this week.
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I've been working with it heavily for a few weeks now if you want to ask a user.
 
free ipods guy - burn in hell, please do not ever, Ever, EVER post such here again. I'm having an increasingly difficult time keeping this crap off of here. It's probably a bot putting it on here, but if it isn't, and is a person, I want my feelings on the matter to be perfectly clear.
 
i guess you've seen the update on camcorderinfo:

"UPDATE: Canon Displays Under $10K-12K HDV Camcorder with 1080i but no 24P, Formal Announcement Next Week"

over 10K for a HDV camera??! they must be joking. i don't care that you can switch the lens (which is likely another 5k if you want something better than the standard) if all ends up in a ultra heavy mpeg2 compression in 4:2:0 space.

the longer i think about it the more i think that panasonic took the right route.. it might be a bit inconvenient for the immediate future, but in two years everybody will laugh at a 3.5mb/sec HD video stream... stored on tape when flash based memory targets for 32GB *per chip* - 120GB P2 card anyone? (ok, that's flash and not SD, but i guess similair things will happen there)
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/aptech_story.asp?category=1700&slug=Samsung%20Flash%20Memory

chris
 
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