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Wednesday, April 05, 2006

Apple's Boot Camp beta - run WinXP on your Intel based Mac! 

Apple - Boot Camp

Well, interestingly enough, just a few weeks after the indie geeks got XP running on Intel Macs, Apple has announced their own bootloader that will allow an official and supported path to get Windows XP running on Intel based Macs (Intel Minis, MacBook Pros, Intel iMacs).

Apple will not sell or support Windows, but you'll be able to install your own separately purchased copy of WinXP on an Intel based Mac. Officially, this is just beta software. Leopard, the next major OS release due next year, will include this feature AFAIK.

From Apple's site:


Here's how it works:

First, you need to make sure your Intel-based Mac has the latest version of Mac OS X and the latest firmware update. These provide technologies that make Boot Camp possible. It%u2019s also wise to print out the Installation & Setup Guide.

The Boot Camp burns a CD with the drivers Windows needs to recognize Mac-specific hardware. It is very important to do this before starting the Windows installation.

The software also helps you set aside hard drive space for the Windows installation, without moving any of your Mac files around. Just drag the intuitive slider to choose the size that%u2019s right for you. Boot Camp also helps you remove the Windows partition, should you so desire.

Next, insert your Windows installation disc, restart and follow the Windows installation process. The only tricky part is selecting the C: drive manually. Be sure to get this right, or you could erase your Mac files accidentally. Remember, Apple Computer does not sell or support Microsoft Windows.
After the installation process is complete and your Mac has booted Windows, you'll need the Macintosh Drivers CD you burned previously. When you insert the CD, it will automatically install the drivers. Follow the instructions in the Installation & Setup Guide for helpful hints.


Other goodies: it'll include drivers for:


Graphics
Networking
Audio
AirPort wireless
Bluetooth
The Eject key (on Apple keyboards)
Brightness control for built-in displays

-it'll let you install WinXP Home Edition or Professional with Service Pack 2.
-USB mouse and keyboard (Apple's for sure, third parties unknown), no Bluetooth definitely
-gotta have latest firmware and 10.4.6
-gotta have at LEAST 10GB free on your drive
-it will let you partition a drive WITHOUT reformatting it, so if you have your current Intel Mac already set up, it'll "make room" for a Windows partition - THAT'S a biggie! Dunno if FireWire is supported for boot.

Be sure to check out the Requirements, Installation, and FAQ document as well.

Other coverage:

macosXrumors.com coverage

Think Secret - Apple adds Windows booting feature to Mac OS X

AppleInsider | Analyst says Apple's Boot Camp could be "game changer"

MacInTouch: timely news and tips about the Apple Macintosh

Macworld UK - Apple software lets Intel Macs run Windows XP

Lengthy user discussion on MacinTouch.

Mike's comments -

Well, this totally rocks, and for creative professionals this could be a Really Big Deal.

Somebody asked me what the big deal was when the indie geeks got it working a few weeks ago with a complex workflow, and I said this would allow creative professionals to have one box to do all their work.

In a perfect world, you'd have virtualization software that would let you run an instance of XP at the same time as OS X, but we aren't there yet.

What you COULD do, for instance, is run software under Windows that you can't under OS X, especially 3D software. Imagine doing 3D renders with Max, or heavy After Effects composites (since no Intel native OS X AE until next year) under Windows - you render to QuickTime, then reboot and can edit in Final Cut. Smooth as possible? No, but it does give you the option of running ONE box instead of two for the budget impaired.

For business users, the ability to run their Windows only apps and still be able to reboot to run the other stuff will be a nice feature as well. Indie/freelance types that buy their own laptops would consider it as well - Windows during the day, OS X at night. But I wouldn't expect most purchasing offices to be so generous as to pay for Apple's premium hardware AND a freestanding (NOT cheap!) Windows XP install just for convenience's sake. But this WILL make it easier for creatives in large companies to get Macs I should imagine. They can just stipulate that it's a Windows box with special needs or something. : )

However, this does expose Apple to a risk akin to the dire fate of OS/2 from IBM years ago - if you can run Windows on the box, and developers already have Windows apps, why should the developers write OS X native apps for that "extra bit of convenience?" (Truthfully it is WAY more convenient, but that may not be the perception). The move to Intel makes it easier to make OS X Universal Binaries, and to port Windows apps to OS X, but the risk of Boot Camp is that it may disincentivize them to do so.

-mike
Comments:
Re: booting from firewire: it seems that it might work (albeit clunkily), given this FAQ question:

In the Windows XP Startup Disk control panel, external FireWire and USB startup disks are not recognized.

External FireWire and USB disks will not be recognized by the Startup Disk control panel in Windows XP. If you want to start from a bootable external disk, hold the Option key as the computer starts up, then select the external disk.
 
NI have been wanting to switch to Macs from PCs for a long time. This news just makes it a no brainer for me. I had been holding off getting a MacBook because many applications of mine run better on PC than Macs (Lightwave, Maya and combustion) not to mention no universal in sight.

Boot Camp is right up my street.

It make life easier for us Switchers but in the long run how good is it for OSX? What incentive will there be for OSX native apps? Take Lightwave, Maya and combustion as examples all less than great on the Mac compared to PC. Will the developers pull their fingers out of their arses and deliver stable Mac offerings or will they say "F*ck it, if Mac users want to run the app they'll have to install Windows. We don't spend shit loads of development time, fire the Mac team and the users get a better product so everybody's happy!!!!"

Call me cynical......
 
One thing missing from my Mac has been an application like DV Rack. If that will run on an XP partition on my Mac that would solve some field production problems for me and improve mobility a lot. I'd do it just for that.
 
Cynical Guy -

yeah, that definitely is a risk - witness OS/2 from IBM.

But with the cat out of the bag for WinXP (the hackers did it a coupla weeks ago), I think this might be the better long term solution.

-mike
 
I am warry of virtualization on the Macintosh, as it might mean more Windows only programs, and Virtualization is not like running the full OS, it never works perfectly, so I think is a huge step. My quesion now is if this will put a fire under Apple to make Front Row into a DVR since with Vista you will have Media Center built into the OS.
 
Only tangentially related to HDforIndies but...we can now run Photoshop, illustrator etc at native speed for the next year until the CS3 comes out. I personally hate the Windows environment and will probaby take the speed hit and continue in Rosetta (I slow my work down more than the software does), but for real speed demons, this might be a boon.
 
Jonah - I heard an interesting comment - Apple will NEVER make a PVR - they want you to BUY content from them one show at a time. Why make a PVR that would let you record it for free? So it is up to third parties to make PVRs, and ideally let them feed into Front Row for control and playback after recording is my $0.02.

Anonymous about Adobe products - yeah, I totally agree, but it requires a particular Mac AND purchase of full WinXP license AND purchase of Windows version. Works, but not convenient AT ALL. I think many will stick with Rosetta performance.

-mike
 
Seing as I've watched a hundred thousand dollar XP based grading system die because it got a virus when downloading a system update, it thrills me that I can now put my trusty mac at risk of days or weeks of downtime for the sake of slightly faster renders.

Toby
 
Toby - that's the beauty of it - your call, man!

: )

But if you could edit with FCP, and reboot and run Iridas or SCRATCH or something....that'd be cool.

Final Touch is groovy and all, but choice is always good.

-mike
 
This is a very different situation form the IBM os2/Warp era. If Developers see this as an excuse not to release mac versions of their software then they were not commited to the platform in the first place. Booting into windows is still a pain, as you have to stop what you are doing in OSX and shut down your machine.

Secondly, this can only increase Apple's market share. People who buy a mac and only use windows for one or two apps will quickly get fed up of re-booting and demand mac native apps. This can only increase demand for native applications.

There was never a particurlarly compelling reason to run OS2/Warp - where as OSX has many compelling reasons and many potential switchers are put off by the need to run one or two windows apps.

Sure there are developers who might feel this allows them to abandon the mac, but in the long run I believe this will bring far more developers to the platform.
 
One thing to note - don't forget that this is going to require people to buy a retail copy of XP SP2 at $99, which, while a tiny sum for techies, is a hurdle for your average home user, who doesn't really understand why they have to pay for software anyway (!!).

So on one hand it removes the 'but it can't run windows' fear from buying a Mac. You can buy one and be re-assured that you COULD run windows but in fact you never will.
But on the other hand this will only really work if Apple gets the message across that it is SO MUCH BETTER to run OS X. I guess they are trying, but in an era when you have a choice now when you buy a trendy Mac which OS it runs, Apple really need to differentiate the OS as that is the key selling point.

Finally, I wonder if some savvy retailers will start selling brand new Macs with XP pre-installed??

Dave
 
It looks like DV Rack already runs on MacBook pro according to this poster at DvInfo:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=64442
 
I believe this is just a first step. You can officially run XP on your Mac... next you will be able to run OSX on your PC. Then it boils down to who makes the best hardware and what OS is the best.
 
I gotta say, I don't really get it. Looking at the breakdowns of the MacBook Pro, it's got the almost exactly same innards as my PC CoreDuo laptop. So, why would I pay 20-30% more for a Mac laptop and run XP on it when I could get a nearly identical machine from the same factory that also runs XP. Just the OSX? Because I can run that on my PC now.
 
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