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High Definition Video for Independent Filmmakers
A How To Guide for Digital Filmmakers
Welcome all! This is my blog to share my latest research,
thoughts, etc. on utilizing HD for independent filmmaking.
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Contact me at mike@hdforindies.com
All content copyright 2004-2007 Mike Curtis.
Monday, April 24, 2006
NAB 2006: Red One Camera pricing and availability
NAB 2006: RED - pricing and availability
Today at NAB, tons of new details were dropped about the RED camera, and so far it sounds just stunning. So much new information has come out, I'm going to drop it in a series of articles covering different facets of the camera.
Let's start off with what's new information that's relevant to potential buyers: The price and how to get one.
PRICING
First off, drum roll please, the price:
$17,500 for a Red One camera body (no lens, no digital mag)
The price for the 300mm lens (f2.8, fixed 300mm, details in other articles today): under $4750
Recording modules: Ted Schilowitz said that there would be a recording option under $1000, but did not specify storage type or capacity. I asked some more about it and he said that product at that price point would offer a useful amount of recording capacity. (My personal interpretation of that statement was that it would be well more capacity than a P2 card)
HOW DO I GET ONE?
If you're interested in reserving one today, they aren't taking orders, but they are taking deposits as a placeholder in line, so that you get a very clear indication of where you are in the queue for production, with no prevarications. In order to distinguish who is serious, they are asking for a $1000 deposit via credit card, which is fully refundable at any time, no questions asked. These are non-tranferable - if you don't want to buy it, you can't give or sell that line position to somebody else - that place in line simply goes away.
This is not to raise cash to develop the camera, simply a way to tell who seriously wants one and reserve a place for those folks.
At this time, they are trying to limit orders to 5 units. If you insist on trying to get more, talk to Ted or Jim. Also the price is what they consider fair and firm - the price is the price. Note that they are selling directly and not through resellers at this time.
If you don't feel comfortable putting a deposit down on a camera that isn't finished yet, fine - later this year they'll be showing actual cameras, and then shipping them late this year/early next year (current plan) - you can always wait and put in an order later, but you'll be behind everyone else who put in an order before you.
So the optimists (with a deposit) get theirs first, the pessimists will have to wait their turn.
update - as of noon, I think there were about 100 reservatsions placed last I heard. So get on it if you want in!
-mike
Today at NAB, tons of new details were dropped about the RED camera, and so far it sounds just stunning. So much new information has come out, I'm going to drop it in a series of articles covering different facets of the camera.
Let's start off with what's new information that's relevant to potential buyers: The price and how to get one.
PRICING
First off, drum roll please, the price:
$17,500 for a Red One camera body (no lens, no digital mag)
The price for the 300mm lens (f2.8, fixed 300mm, details in other articles today): under $4750
Recording modules: Ted Schilowitz said that there would be a recording option under $1000, but did not specify storage type or capacity. I asked some more about it and he said that product at that price point would offer a useful amount of recording capacity. (My personal interpretation of that statement was that it would be well more capacity than a P2 card)
HOW DO I GET ONE?
If you're interested in reserving one today, they aren't taking orders, but they are taking deposits as a placeholder in line, so that you get a very clear indication of where you are in the queue for production, with no prevarications. In order to distinguish who is serious, they are asking for a $1000 deposit via credit card, which is fully refundable at any time, no questions asked. These are non-tranferable - if you don't want to buy it, you can't give or sell that line position to somebody else - that place in line simply goes away.
This is not to raise cash to develop the camera, simply a way to tell who seriously wants one and reserve a place for those folks.
At this time, they are trying to limit orders to 5 units. If you insist on trying to get more, talk to Ted or Jim. Also the price is what they consider fair and firm - the price is the price. Note that they are selling directly and not through resellers at this time.
If you don't feel comfortable putting a deposit down on a camera that isn't finished yet, fine - later this year they'll be showing actual cameras, and then shipping them late this year/early next year (current plan) - you can always wait and put in an order later, but you'll be behind everyone else who put in an order before you.
So the optimists (with a deposit) get theirs first, the pessimists will have to wait their turn.
update - as of noon, I think there were about 100 reservatsions placed last I heard. So get on it if you want in!
-mike
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Heck, you don't even have to be at NAB to reserve, apparently; there's a form on the website, with a note that says "Please Contact RED DIGITAL CINEMA for further information on reservations at 949.521.4832 during NAB week."
So, if you're hot for one of these and not in Vegas, there's the number, give 'em a call.
So, if you're hot for one of these and not in Vegas, there's the number, give 'em a call.
Reservations ? Sounds a bit like trying to raise capital to me. I don't think this camera will see the lite of day.
I heard several non-camera vendors around NAB on day one cracking jokes about red and its both. Most serious technical people are laughing at the whole red thing.
When the guy giving the presentation said "We're going to make obsolence obsolete" my bulls*** meter got pegged and I left for other things.
I heard several non-camera vendors around NAB on day one cracking jokes about red and its both. Most serious technical people are laughing at the whole red thing.
When the guy giving the presentation said "We're going to make obsolence obsolete" my bulls*** meter got pegged and I left for other things.
Anonymous - then you should have gone in the booth to learn more. As for the raising capital thing, the company was started by the dude who founded Oakley - I don't think he needs your money!
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Gone into the booth and learn what ? There is no camera. Until they even have something close to a production model saying stuff is just saying stuff.
Making sunglasses does not make you an expert on making cameras and the main rule to getting rich is to never risk your own money. Thats the way to get poor.
Mike ya need to calm down and be a bit more objective. Your site is going to end up like Chris Hurds when he was doing the XL1 site. Just a mouthpiece for canon or in your case RED.
Making sunglasses does not make you an expert on making cameras and the main rule to getting rich is to never risk your own money. Thats the way to get poor.
Mike ya need to calm down and be a bit more objective. Your site is going to end up like Chris Hurds when he was doing the XL1 site. Just a mouthpiece for canon or in your case RED.
"the main rule to getting rich is to never risk your own money. Thats the way to get poor."
Tell that to Mel Gibson. Or Ted Turner. A better way to get poor is to never make any money in the first place.
Tell that to Mel Gibson. Or Ted Turner. A better way to get poor is to never make any money in the first place.
hey folks, do you homework first. This camera was dreamt up by a digcam fanatic, someone with enough money to own pretty much every camera available on the amrket. And yet enough out of the business not to take no for an answer. If anyone can make it work, a rich hobbyist will do it, especially one with enough tech-savvy and the right connections that being head of Oakley gives you.
So when do they bring out their pro-sumer version?
So when do they bring out their pro-sumer version?
exactly, Jim Jannard has been shooting film for 30 years, and has been designing some of the best consumer grade optics around with the newest and best in hightech engeneering solutions. Laugh all you want, this camera is going to blow away everything on the market. Personally, it sounds unbelievable...the chip specks are rediculous, I have no idea how they did it. But only time will tell...between the specs, size, recording without tape, interchangability of lenses, its brilliant.
is that all they said at NAB?
what about all the answers Jannard promised in your interview mike?
please give us a serious update on red camera.
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what about all the answers Jannard promised in your interview mike?
please give us a serious update on red camera.
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