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High Definition Video for Independent Filmmakers
A How To Guide for Digital Filmmakers
Welcome all! This is my blog to share my latest research,
thoughts, etc. on utilizing HD for independent filmmaking.
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Contact me at mike@hdforindies.com
All content copyright 2004-2007 Mike Curtis.
Sunday, July 30, 2006
Quick update on HD Shootout DVDs for DGA folks
If you'd like to be informed when the DVDs are available, send an email to mike AT hdforindies DOT com with "Shootout DVD" in the subject.
At the DGA's Digital Day today I mentioned the DVDs I'm working on - for those who are just now tuning in, here's the deal:
Earlier this year, we (Mike Curtis (me), Chris Hurd of DVInfo.net, and Adam Wilt of DV.com, and others) gathered six cameras:
Sony HVR-Z1U (HDV 1080i format)
JVC GY-HD100U (HDV 720p format)
Panasonic HVX200 (DVCPROHD format on P2 cards)
Canon XL H1 (HDV 1080i format)
as well as:
Sony F350 (new XDCAM HD format)
Panasonic Varicam/H (DVCPRO HD format)
(we'd planned a Sony F900, but that fell through)
We shot a wide range of test material - indoors, outdoors, static, panning, fast motion, 24p, 60i (some 50i too), charts, actresses, greenscreen, outdoors by a lake, etc.
All cameras were recorded to their native media, and when in studio, also uncompressed to disc (via HD-SDI or component analog to HD-SDI via converters) to RAIDs with AJA and BlackMagic HD-SDI capture cards.
There are something like 60 shots captured on all cameras - for charts and critical static tests, we rotated the cameras off the same set of sticks to match shooting positions, but for a lot of the action footage we lined them all up as closely as possible to get simultaneous footage (slated for sync).
I've spent a large amount of time capturing all the footage, converting/removing pulldown, uprezzing, etc. so all footage will be 10 bit uncompressed 1920x1080 @ 23.976 fps or 59.94 interlaced fields/sec (even if it started at another size or framerate).
The goal is to have comparisons, commentary, etc. for all of these available as both standard and high definition DVDs (high def DVDs will be for Mac playback only most likely, as I tend to focus more on Final Cut Pro than Avid).
It's 1am, more details to follow, but for those who attended DGA Digital Day, I wanted to let you know what's up.
-mike
At the DGA's Digital Day today I mentioned the DVDs I'm working on - for those who are just now tuning in, here's the deal:
Earlier this year, we (Mike Curtis (me), Chris Hurd of DVInfo.net, and Adam Wilt of DV.com, and others) gathered six cameras:
Sony HVR-Z1U (HDV 1080i format)
JVC GY-HD100U (HDV 720p format)
Panasonic HVX200 (DVCPROHD format on P2 cards)
Canon XL H1 (HDV 1080i format)
as well as:
Sony F350 (new XDCAM HD format)
Panasonic Varicam/H (DVCPRO HD format)
(we'd planned a Sony F900, but that fell through)
We shot a wide range of test material - indoors, outdoors, static, panning, fast motion, 24p, 60i (some 50i too), charts, actresses, greenscreen, outdoors by a lake, etc.
All cameras were recorded to their native media, and when in studio, also uncompressed to disc (via HD-SDI or component analog to HD-SDI via converters) to RAIDs with AJA and BlackMagic HD-SDI capture cards.
There are something like 60 shots captured on all cameras - for charts and critical static tests, we rotated the cameras off the same set of sticks to match shooting positions, but for a lot of the action footage we lined them all up as closely as possible to get simultaneous footage (slated for sync).
I've spent a large amount of time capturing all the footage, converting/removing pulldown, uprezzing, etc. so all footage will be 10 bit uncompressed 1920x1080 @ 23.976 fps or 59.94 interlaced fields/sec (even if it started at another size or framerate).
The goal is to have comparisons, commentary, etc. for all of these available as both standard and high definition DVDs (high def DVDs will be for Mac playback only most likely, as I tend to focus more on Final Cut Pro than Avid).
It's 1am, more details to follow, but for those who attended DGA Digital Day, I wanted to let you know what's up.
-mike
Comments:
thats a great idea. I'm thinking of buying the HVX200, and thats why I bought a subscribtion of www.macvideo.co.uk, a free dvd was included with footage of the HVX200.
I'd happilly pay for good test footage and tips...
I'd happilly pay for good test footage and tips...
Looking forward to get one copy of HD shotout in Fall. I am in Europe, right now in Formentera Spain on vacation and later would like to have an option to order DVD with a credit card.
Sanjin
Sanjin
That you have to resummarize this stuff for people at the DGA-LA is amusing to me. It suggests that people have no sense of what's going on in the rest of the film world. Think about it, Mike. Stay in Austin.
Awesome, Mike et al.
I'm from Canada. If I had a work visa for L.A. I would have moved there many years ago. L.A. is culturally vacuous, but you can use your leads to make the kind of projects you dream about. They do love film and art even though they're all a bit ignorant. Good luck.
I'm from Canada. If I had a work visa for L.A. I would have moved there many years ago. L.A. is culturally vacuous, but you can use your leads to make the kind of projects you dream about. They do love film and art even though they're all a bit ignorant. Good luck.
that is indeed an awesome idea, I would gladly pay for a test DVD, maybe $30-50? I would suggest making a data dvd available as well with clips in their original format, and/or other uncompressed data (DPX frameset, tiffs, etc).
Of particular interest would be to see how all the different formats handle greenscreen and keying (don't know if you even shot this). Testing this from the original clips and not a further downsized and compressed DVD version would be important. Ditto goes for testing how they hold up under color correction.
Even better would be if you could shoot some 35mm and 16mm tests to compare to, ideally transferred differnt ways (laser scan vs Spirit for instance) I'm sure people are curious about that too.
Heck, you could turn this idea into a whole business, doing nothing but shooting test footage of every camera as it comes out and selling sample DVDs... Or make it an online biz, sell the clips to download, only what you need...
Of particular interest would be to see how all the different formats handle greenscreen and keying (don't know if you even shot this). Testing this from the original clips and not a further downsized and compressed DVD version would be important. Ditto goes for testing how they hold up under color correction.
Even better would be if you could shoot some 35mm and 16mm tests to compare to, ideally transferred differnt ways (laser scan vs Spirit for instance) I'm sure people are curious about that too.
Heck, you could turn this idea into a whole business, doing nothing but shooting test footage of every camera as it comes out and selling sample DVDs... Or make it an online biz, sell the clips to download, only what you need...
I don't understand why all formats are being converted to 1920x1080. I'd really like to see what they all look like in their native formats and resolutions. Won't that introduce other scaling artifacts on the 720p footage?
Mike,
Did you guys shoot anything worthy of stock footage you could share at http://www.revostock.com/ ?
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Did you guys shoot anything worthy of stock footage you could share at http://www.revostock.com/ ?
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