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High Definition Video for Independent Filmmakers
A How To Guide for Digital Filmmakers
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Wednesday, August 30, 2006

Vegas 7 Specs Published then Pulled 

Videoguys Blog got'em though - they have the specs on Vegas 7. Items of interest for the indie crowd:

-"comprehensive" XDCAM SD/HD support - so does this mean 18 and 35mbit VBR as well as 25mbit CBR as well? And 24p?

-better AJA and BlackMagic support

-better HDV/SDI/HD-SDI support

-enhanced video monitoring (more modes I'd guess)

-and a bunch of DVD stuff too

(found via FresHDV.com)
Comments:
Mike covers a non-Mac NLE? :) Happy day.

For those who've not worked in Vegas, it's really a superior NLE primarily because of the superior audio functions, workflow and quality. I personally think audio is the number 1 problem indies have and Vegas makes it easy to work with (though you have to spend the time learning good audio principles with any app).

The video workflow (specifically sequence/bin org) can use some improvement compared to Avid/FCP and GPU acceleration would be nice, but for cutting & mixing, I've not see a better app.

Let's hope v7 addresses those (not clear from the specs yet).
 
Cue NLE Holy War in 5, 4, 3...

;-)

Matt Jeppsen
FresHDV.com
 
{fanboy}
DayoOOOOOd!

Strata's MovieEdit is teh Bomb!

IT R TEH BESTEST!

Any company that can do three dee ray tracing stuff HAS to be able to make cake of just cutting stupid video!!!!

{/fanboy}

-OR-

"Why do you people need specialized apps? I just do all my editing in After Effects...it's better there, because you can control everything so much better...."

: )

-mike
 
While Vegas doesn't feature "sequences" like in FCP or Avid, the "Nested VEG file" feature is pretty much the same. Basically you can take a Vegas project file and load it on the timeline as a sequence, no rendering required. You can also have multiple instances of Vegas open at the same time to work on multiple sequences.
 
i can have multiple FCP instances open at the same time, each with multiple sequences

research shows that sixty percent of the time, the vegas trimmer doesn't efficiently work all the time
 
Mike, thanks for the heads up and link abut Vegas 7. Appreciate the coverage, Vegas is a great program.
 
Thanks Mike - it's good to hear Vegas mentioned on your page. I have recently been struggling through a switch from Vegas to FCP, but am realizing I really don't want to switch, even after investing in a Mac and the newest Final Cut Studio. I love Macs, and have happily switched over in every other app, but nothing compares to the ease of Vegas. It simply makes editing fun, yet can still handle unlimited audio and video tracks, you can drop anything, and I mean anything, on the timeline and never worry about rendering, and it's simply intuitive beyond belief. I just wish Apple had bought it instead of Sony... but thanks for noting the next version.
 
research shows that sixty percent of the time, the vegas trimmer doesn't efficiently work all the time

huh ? That comment is non sense...
 
yeah, you can drop anything on the timeline except for dvcpro, p2, and THE MXF format that every other company uses. Sony of course uses their own proprietary version. I love vegas. But I am super annoyed with their marketing logic at the moment. And have to look to other software for real-time render free editing. Edius broadcast 4 it is. Sony isn't real-time with what I need. As a matter of fact they don't even support it at all. If I have to get a 500 plug in to be able to edit my footage and then have to wait for that plugin to put a different wrapper around my footage so sony will be satisfied, then that defeats the purpose of what sony was all about. In my humble opinion, people got scared when sony bought vegas. But it all worked out. Now the fact that sony owns vegas is pushing vegas away from what originally made it such a great little piece of software. Period. :) Look at what they are doing with the RED camera. They have seen some footage and realized it is AMAZING, and a tenth of the price of nearest competitor they are working on, and so they decided... uhm RED, we aren't going to let you use our 4k projector. That is just silly. It isn't going to stop people from seeing the red footage or buying the camera if it lives up to its hype. Not supporting other cam formats in your nle isn't going to make people buy a sony cam. When it comes to a 700-1500 dollar piece of software and a 6000 dollar cam, I choose the cam first. Does sony really think that moving further towards this proprietary idea of thinking is going to make people buy a sony cam instead? They might as well just bundle vegas with all their cams and get it over with, cause that is what it is going to end up being eventually.
There. Sorry for the rant. I just really love the vegas nle's and am so frustrated by the marketing decisions or political or whatever logic is going on that is causing sony to be blinded and not recognize the very thing that made the vegas series stand out. And to quote the above. you can put ANYTHING on the timeline. no render. no wait. no worries. well at least that is how it used to be. that is all changing now.
Take care. Goodbye to VEGAS and hello to EDIUS broadcast 4. True real-time editing, and support for every camera format known to man. in pal or ntsc. including sony. They are not so robust. but they will get my dollars b/c they are doing it right! And with the recent acquisition of them, I would bet they are only going to get more robust and quickly too. 4 has been a major update from what i understand. PHEw. anyways. that's my rant. take care
 
I use FCP all day long now, and there are for sure times I miss cutting in Vegas. It's fast, fun, and cheap. I do love the audio capabilities and track FX (apply stuff to whole track). Nesting was a bit wonky in 6, looking forward to 7.
 
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