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High Definition Video for Independent Filmmakers
A How To Guide for Digital Filmmakers
Welcome all! This is my blog to share my latest research,
thoughts, etc. on utilizing HD for independent filmmaking.
YES, I am available for consulting
Contact me at mike@hdforindies.com
All content copyright 2004-2007 Mike Curtis.
Wednesday, December 06, 2006
All Things Apocalypto - Mel Gibson's new Genesis shot feature
So Apocalypto is going to open soon - super violent, Mel Gibson's next, controversial, yadda yadda whatever.
The IMPORTANT thing, ya see, from my own teeny tiny, obsessive compulsive disorder point of view, is that he shot it digitally, on the Panavision Genesis.
And I've seen a bit of it (oooh, wouldn't you like to know where) and it looks GOOD. I'd comfortably say it is the best looking Genesis shot film so far, and I'll need to see the whole thing before I could say the best looking digital feature so far, but that is yet TBD and pretty subjective anyway. But it looks rilly rilly good, m'kay?
SO: let's talk geek.
For starters, here's an LA Times piece about the movie:
Waiting for the end to come on 'Apocalypto' - Los Angeles Times
Talking about digital:
Semler and Gibson had discussed the idea of digitally shooting "Apocalypto" two years ago,
.....
Both men knew, given the subject matter, that shooting "Apocalypto" digitally was a no-brainer. Semler had a good track record with new digital tools,
(no brainer? really? Hmm... -mike)
....
So Semler took Gibson to Panavision's screening room to eyeball early comparative test footage shot on both film and the new Genesis digital camera projected out to film. Neither the director nor the director of photography could tell what was shot on film versus tape, the cinematographer recalls.
(and I have to say I've seen some similar demos at Panavision - differences were MINOR on the footage I saw, and you had to know where to look - at windows to outside, etc. in the footage I saw -mike again)
Article goes on to discuss how they protected the cameras from the fierce heat of the jungle, some crazy slo-mo acting they had to do to accomodate the limited frame rate of the Genesis (as compared to film cameras), and some more good details of how they got it done.
Variety.com - Reviews - Apocalypto: "More remarkable still is that pic was shot on the new high definition Genesis camera system. Without a doubt, 'Apocalypto' is the best-looking big-budget film yet shot digitally; one can't tell it wasn't shot on film."
Scott Kirsner, ever on the ball on this how tech affects Hollywood, reports about digital cinematography:
Digital cinematography: "In fact, DPs continue to rely on film cameras for shots that require variable shutter speed or especially high frame rates. 'We carried an (Arriflex) 435 because the cameras we had initially wouldn't go beyond 30 frames a second,' Semler says. 'But about a month into 'Apocalypto,' we were given three new (Genesis) camera bodies that could do 50 frames per second.'"
And here's how you start an article: TIME.com: Apocalypto Now -- Mar. 27, 2006 -- Page 1: "'I need to see the blood!' shouts Mel Gibson. 'Your character is going to die soon!' He picks up a bullhorn: 'Attention! We are all dying here! We are all dying!'"
Camera maker sharpens its focus - Los Angeles Times: "Four years ago the picture was bleak for Panavision Inc.Massive debt, bad management decisions and rapidly changing technologies threatened its stature as Hollywood's gold standard for cameras and lenses used in shooting television shows, movies and commercials.
Now Panavision, whose logo on film credits has been familiar to moviegoers for decades, is regaining its focus."
-mike
The IMPORTANT thing, ya see, from my own teeny tiny, obsessive compulsive disorder point of view, is that he shot it digitally, on the Panavision Genesis.
And I've seen a bit of it (oooh, wouldn't you like to know where) and it looks GOOD. I'd comfortably say it is the best looking Genesis shot film so far, and I'll need to see the whole thing before I could say the best looking digital feature so far, but that is yet TBD and pretty subjective anyway. But it looks rilly rilly good, m'kay?
SO: let's talk geek.
For starters, here's an LA Times piece about the movie:
Waiting for the end to come on 'Apocalypto' - Los Angeles Times
Talking about digital:
Semler and Gibson had discussed the idea of digitally shooting "Apocalypto" two years ago,
.....
Both men knew, given the subject matter, that shooting "Apocalypto" digitally was a no-brainer. Semler had a good track record with new digital tools,
(no brainer? really? Hmm... -mike)
....
So Semler took Gibson to Panavision's screening room to eyeball early comparative test footage shot on both film and the new Genesis digital camera projected out to film. Neither the director nor the director of photography could tell what was shot on film versus tape, the cinematographer recalls.
(and I have to say I've seen some similar demos at Panavision - differences were MINOR on the footage I saw, and you had to know where to look - at windows to outside, etc. in the footage I saw -mike again)
Article goes on to discuss how they protected the cameras from the fierce heat of the jungle, some crazy slo-mo acting they had to do to accomodate the limited frame rate of the Genesis (as compared to film cameras), and some more good details of how they got it done.
Variety.com - Reviews - Apocalypto: "More remarkable still is that pic was shot on the new high definition Genesis camera system. Without a doubt, 'Apocalypto' is the best-looking big-budget film yet shot digitally; one can't tell it wasn't shot on film."
Scott Kirsner, ever on the ball on this how tech affects Hollywood, reports about digital cinematography:
Digital cinematography: "In fact, DPs continue to rely on film cameras for shots that require variable shutter speed or especially high frame rates. 'We carried an (Arriflex) 435 because the cameras we had initially wouldn't go beyond 30 frames a second,' Semler says. 'But about a month into 'Apocalypto,' we were given three new (Genesis) camera bodies that could do 50 frames per second.'"
And here's how you start an article: TIME.com: Apocalypto Now -- Mar. 27, 2006 -- Page 1: "'I need to see the blood!' shouts Mel Gibson. 'Your character is going to die soon!' He picks up a bullhorn: 'Attention! We are all dying here! We are all dying!'"
Camera maker sharpens its focus - Los Angeles Times: "Four years ago the picture was bleak for Panavision Inc.Massive debt, bad management decisions and rapidly changing technologies threatened its stature as Hollywood's gold standard for cameras and lenses used in shooting television shows, movies and commercials.
Now Panavision, whose logo on film credits has been familiar to moviegoers for decades, is regaining its focus."
-mike
Comments:
Can someone explain to me the current Panavision business plan? Does this mean every 3-5 years they have to go to Sony and commission them to build them a camera no one else can have access to?
And pay them enough so they don't go commercial with it? meanwhile trying to FUD any other competing electronic camera? All the while competing with their own fim based inventory?
And pay them enough so they don't go commercial with it? meanwhile trying to FUD any other competing electronic camera? All the while competing with their own fim based inventory?
I saw an advance screening in Austin a couple months ago. I had no idea it was shot digitally. It looks amazing. It never even crossed my mind that it was digital and not film, and I would say I'm much more in tune with such things than the average audience member who is NOT thinking about what it's shot on at all--he just cares if the movie rocks, and in this case it does. Apocalypto was fast and furious and great drama. Say what you will about Mel, but it's by far his best film yet. Perhaps his only truly great film.
I just saw Apocolypto yesterday and thought it looked obviously digital. A good amount of the time light was severly blown out and anytime the camera moved quickly, it screamed digital. Just my opinion though I guess...
Anonymous above - can you give more detail on that observation - what about it screamed digital during camera movement? I haven't seen it yet.
And was it different from film, superior, or inferior to film?
Or, asked another way - did it seem a valid tool for moviemaking?
-mike
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And was it different from film, superior, or inferior to film?
Or, asked another way - did it seem a valid tool for moviemaking?
-mike
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