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High Definition Video for Independent Filmmakers
A How To Guide for Digital Filmmakers
Welcome all! This is my blog to share my latest research,
thoughts, etc. on utilizing HD for independent filmmaking.
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All content copyright 2004-2007 Mike Curtis.
Thursday, November 29, 2007
Reel Stream technology sold, no more cameras to be sold/converted
Reel Stream :: View topic - Reel-Stream Update
The Reel Stream company had interesting ideas - getting 4:4:4 output from DVX and HVX cameras. Unfortunately, it didn't catch on, and the technology has been sold, and will likely not be sold to the public. Bummer.
Somewhat predictable though - for one-off indie filmmaking projects, a maybe. But for professional rental situations, the effort, while valiant, creative, and good use of tech, struck me as undercapitalized, understaffed, and undersupported. The fact that it was wedded to fixed lens cameras was also a signficant hindrance, IMHO.
Juan worked his butt off to make it fly, but he's moving on to another pasture, I sincerely hope it is greener in all respects for him.
There is a petition to try to get the buyer of the tech to make it publicly available is here:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/hydraandromeda/
Don't know who the buyer is, but I'm not holding my breath for it to be made publicly available. My speculation is that either the tech is getting folded into another product, or the tech was bought specifically to cap that well.
-mike
The Reel Stream company had interesting ideas - getting 4:4:4 output from DVX and HVX cameras. Unfortunately, it didn't catch on, and the technology has been sold, and will likely not be sold to the public. Bummer.
Somewhat predictable though - for one-off indie filmmaking projects, a maybe. But for professional rental situations, the effort, while valiant, creative, and good use of tech, struck me as undercapitalized, understaffed, and undersupported. The fact that it was wedded to fixed lens cameras was also a signficant hindrance, IMHO.
Juan worked his butt off to make it fly, but he's moving on to another pasture, I sincerely hope it is greener in all respects for him.
There is a petition to try to get the buyer of the tech to make it publicly available is here:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/hydraandromeda/
Don't know who the buyer is, but I'm not holding my breath for it to be made publicly available. My speculation is that either the tech is getting folded into another product, or the tech was bought specifically to cap that well.
-mike
Comments:
It was an awesome option for converting a popular 24p camera (DVX100/A/B) to a HD capability in the 4:4:4 space. Awesome.
It's sad actually. The folks who bought into the tech (as you say) and modded their cameras are now stuck in the wind. I had hoped to modify my dvx100a to leverage my existing investment. The thought of being able to capture my images in uncompressed RAW was impressive to me and many others who have the dvx. Those of us who don't even have the resources to buy the precious Red One that you love so and report on so faithfully.
The thought of a company just 'capping the well' as you say may be just about Juan and Jeremy needing money to live on and possibly with no options to advance their company they finally sold the technology to some company that has been watching them from the outset. everyone should sign the petition. Company's have a tendency to not care about such things when they have an agenda though.
Again.l It is sad.
It's sad actually. The folks who bought into the tech (as you say) and modded their cameras are now stuck in the wind. I had hoped to modify my dvx100a to leverage my existing investment. The thought of being able to capture my images in uncompressed RAW was impressive to me and many others who have the dvx. Those of us who don't even have the resources to buy the precious Red One that you love so and report on so faithfully.
The thought of a company just 'capping the well' as you say may be just about Juan and Jeremy needing money to live on and possibly with no options to advance their company they finally sold the technology to some company that has been watching them from the outset. everyone should sign the petition. Company's have a tendency to not care about such things when they have an agenda though.
Again.l It is sad.
A lot of cameras nowadays are offering HDMI output.
It really is just a matter of time for some company
to sell a portable HDMI to SATA recorder. An iPod
sizes recorder in which people can select
whatever codec they want (PRO-RES 4:2:2/whatever)
All the best to the people at Reel-Stream, but what
they were offering was an intermediary solution at best.
It really is just a matter of time for some company
to sell a portable HDMI to SATA recorder. An iPod
sizes recorder in which people can select
whatever codec they want (PRO-RES 4:2:2/whatever)
All the best to the people at Reel-Stream, but what
they were offering was an intermediary solution at best.
Mike,
You posted the wrong link to my petition. Please change it to this:
http://forum.reel-stream.com/viewtopic.php?t=850
The petition is password protected, and only this thread on the Reel Stream site has it. The goal of this is to prove the petition is a legit one, and anyone signing it really does support the effort enough get this password in order to sign it.
Thanks,
Chris Nuzzaco
Director of Photography
www.chrisnuzzaco.com
chris@chrisnuzzaco.com
You posted the wrong link to my petition. Please change it to this:
http://forum.reel-stream.com/viewtopic.php?t=850
The petition is password protected, and only this thread on the Reel Stream site has it. The goal of this is to prove the petition is a legit one, and anyone signing it really does support the effort enough get this password in order to sign it.
Thanks,
Chris Nuzzaco
Director of Photography
www.chrisnuzzaco.com
chris@chrisnuzzaco.com
"All the best to the people at Reel-Stream, but what
they were offering was an intermediary solution at best."
HDMI 1.3a is great but has yet to be implemented on any camcorder. Even if it were, my understanding is that output, with most camera designs, would still be 8-bit. In theory Hydra was capable of 12+ bits. Further, through extreme pixel shift, it enabled resolutions greater than 2K. Admittedly, getting data off the camera was a little clunky, but it was just a matter of time before a more flexible, practical hard-disk or solid-state memory solution became available.
they were offering was an intermediary solution at best."
HDMI 1.3a is great but has yet to be implemented on any camcorder. Even if it were, my understanding is that output, with most camera designs, would still be 8-bit. In theory Hydra was capable of 12+ bits. Further, through extreme pixel shift, it enabled resolutions greater than 2K. Admittedly, getting data off the camera was a little clunky, but it was just a matter of time before a more flexible, practical hard-disk or solid-state memory solution became available.
I own an andromeda modded camera, and it's not *that* clunky. You just need one extra crew member to work the sculptor program. Hydra would have been even better for this since it was over ethernet - I'd kill for an ethernet port for my dvx.
You know, of all of the potential buyers that could've emerged to buy this technology I was hoping someone like Focus Enhancements would. That a Firestore solution of sorts would've been a 'killer app' IMO.
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