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High Definition Video for Independent Filmmakers
A How To Guide for Digital Filmmakers
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Thursday, January 10, 2008
Sundance Math: Egads.
UPDATED - scroll down
I've mentioned this idea before, but indies, do be realistic - the odds of getting into Sundance are HARSH:
films submitted: 3624
films to be screened: 121
truly indie films likely to be picked up for significant theatrical distribution that didn't already have it going in: my guess, 1-3
It is PLENTY hard enough to make an indie film - a great many die on the table, so to speak, and never get finished. Of those that get finished and submitted to Sundance...this year, 3.33% of submitted films will be shown. Ouch. And of those that were actually indie-outta-left field, perhaps 3, maybe 4, will get picked up for meaningful distribution at best. Maybe just 1. So if we presume 2 truly indie films get picked up, that's 2 out of 3624, or 0.055%....or one in about 1800 (OK, 1812 to be exact).
Is your movie ready to beat out 1811 other films?
Really?
I'm ALL FOR people pursuing their dreams. I'm already thinking of the short I want to make when I get my own Red One (hey, who wants to help?). But be sanguine about the odds, the results, and especially the business case. If you want to make a movie, do it for the right reasons, and be ready to be happy about the time you spent and the money it cost, and be ready for it to not have tangible, financial results.
Especially at the box office.
Then think about cable, direct to DVD, and any other market that might pay you for your content.
Source:
"For the 2008 Sundance Film Festival, 121 feature-length films were selected including 87 world premieres, 14 North American premieres and 12 U.S. premieres representing 25 countries with 55 first-time filmmakers, including 32 in competition. These films were selected from 3,624 feature film submissions composed of 2,021 U.S. and 1,603 international feature-length films. These numbers represent an increase from last year when 1,852 U.S. and 1,435 international feature length films were considered."
-mike
FRIDAY UPDATE
There's some good stuff in the Comments on this one.
Many (fairly) took me to task for sounding all "Debbie Downer" in this post. Whilst cranky when I wrote it, the underlying driver wasn't "U R Hoserated." A much happier way to fix/spin/"I'd like to amend and revise my prior statements" it would be to be Zen about it - the making and finishing of the movie should be a BIG chunk of the reward.
Don't count on financial rewards to consider it a successful adventure was my point.
There, am I closer to half full now?
: )
Also, the odds ARE tough. But unlike rolling an 1812 sided dice and hoping it comes up with the one right number, the odds aren't as bad as they look...not all sides of that dice are the same size. There's a LOT of lame submissions out there (small dice sides). And the commenter that stated that the number of quality submissions is about the same? That makes sense to me - I could see quality submissions going up SOME, but not on track with/at the same rate as overall submissions (the good submissions are the bigger sides of that 1812 mega-dice).
The juju I'd suggest - plan, plan, plan like a Bad MF; have a GREAT script, Stay On Target, have a good technical plan in place so you don't have to worry about codecs on set for more than 3 seconds a day (that stuff should alllllll be resolved before you record your first frame!), etc.
The flip side is MOST movies are weak. Make one that rocks. Take Juno for instance - they just let'er rip, and it ROCKS for that reason. The storyline is pretty tame - teen pregnancy, decides to adopt, falls back in love with boyfriend - with that log line, my stomach aches from Movie Of The Week syndrome. But their attitude, and OMFG - the DIALOG - makes that movie SING. Lines like "Honest to blog!" and music with lyrics like "my mp3-dvd-rumble-pack guitar" made me LOVE THIS movie. Is all about the attitude. The cinematography? Lighting? Sound design? I dunno, I never really noticed them, so they quietly and professionally did their job right. But it is the script, and acting, and Ellen Page* in particular that made it a winner.
Making a movie that just plain fucking RAWKS? THAT takes Nerves of Steel, Balls of Brass (or metric female equivalent), and Heaps O' Determination.
: )
-mike
* As I said to Erica (girlfriend) recently, there are three young actress performances that have knocked me off my feet in my lifetime - Natalie Portman in The Professional, Kirsten Dunst in Interview with the Vampire, and Ellen Page in Hard Candy. That girl is going places.
I've mentioned this idea before, but indies, do be realistic - the odds of getting into Sundance are HARSH:
films submitted: 3624
films to be screened: 121
truly indie films likely to be picked up for significant theatrical distribution that didn't already have it going in: my guess, 1-3
It is PLENTY hard enough to make an indie film - a great many die on the table, so to speak, and never get finished. Of those that get finished and submitted to Sundance...this year, 3.33% of submitted films will be shown. Ouch. And of those that were actually indie-outta-left field, perhaps 3, maybe 4, will get picked up for meaningful distribution at best. Maybe just 1. So if we presume 2 truly indie films get picked up, that's 2 out of 3624, or 0.055%....or one in about 1800 (OK, 1812 to be exact).
Is your movie ready to beat out 1811 other films?
Really?
I'm ALL FOR people pursuing their dreams. I'm already thinking of the short I want to make when I get my own Red One (hey, who wants to help?). But be sanguine about the odds, the results, and especially the business case. If you want to make a movie, do it for the right reasons, and be ready to be happy about the time you spent and the money it cost, and be ready for it to not have tangible, financial results.
Especially at the box office.
Then think about cable, direct to DVD, and any other market that might pay you for your content.
Source:
"For the 2008 Sundance Film Festival, 121 feature-length films were selected including 87 world premieres, 14 North American premieres and 12 U.S. premieres representing 25 countries with 55 first-time filmmakers, including 32 in competition. These films were selected from 3,624 feature film submissions composed of 2,021 U.S. and 1,603 international feature-length films. These numbers represent an increase from last year when 1,852 U.S. and 1,435 international feature length films were considered."
-mike
FRIDAY UPDATE
There's some good stuff in the Comments on this one.
Many (fairly) took me to task for sounding all "Debbie Downer" in this post. Whilst cranky when I wrote it, the underlying driver wasn't "U R Hoserated." A much happier way to fix/spin/"I'd like to amend and revise my prior statements" it would be to be Zen about it - the making and finishing of the movie should be a BIG chunk of the reward.
Don't count on financial rewards to consider it a successful adventure was my point.
There, am I closer to half full now?
: )
Also, the odds ARE tough. But unlike rolling an 1812 sided dice and hoping it comes up with the one right number, the odds aren't as bad as they look...not all sides of that dice are the same size. There's a LOT of lame submissions out there (small dice sides). And the commenter that stated that the number of quality submissions is about the same? That makes sense to me - I could see quality submissions going up SOME, but not on track with/at the same rate as overall submissions (the good submissions are the bigger sides of that 1812 mega-dice).
The juju I'd suggest - plan, plan, plan like a Bad MF; have a GREAT script, Stay On Target, have a good technical plan in place so you don't have to worry about codecs on set for more than 3 seconds a day (that stuff should alllllll be resolved before you record your first frame!), etc.
The flip side is MOST movies are weak. Make one that rocks. Take Juno for instance - they just let'er rip, and it ROCKS for that reason. The storyline is pretty tame - teen pregnancy, decides to adopt, falls back in love with boyfriend - with that log line, my stomach aches from Movie Of The Week syndrome. But their attitude, and OMFG - the DIALOG - makes that movie SING. Lines like "Honest to blog!" and music with lyrics like "my mp3-dvd-rumble-pack guitar" made me LOVE THIS movie. Is all about the attitude. The cinematography? Lighting? Sound design? I dunno, I never really noticed them, so they quietly and professionally did their job right. But it is the script, and acting, and Ellen Page* in particular that made it a winner.
Making a movie that just plain fucking RAWKS? THAT takes Nerves of Steel, Balls of Brass (or metric female equivalent), and Heaps O' Determination.
: )
-mike
* As I said to Erica (girlfriend) recently, there are three young actress performances that have knocked me off my feet in my lifetime - Natalie Portman in The Professional, Kirsten Dunst in Interview with the Vampire, and Ellen Page in Hard Candy. That girl is going places.
Labels: festivals, film festivals, Sundance
Comments:
I worked on three films submitted to Sundance this year. 0 were accepted, but still the dream lives on. It's getting to be somewhat of an honor to be rejected by Sundance.
Also - Mike - I want to help with your Red One short.
Nick Hillyard - 5 time Sundance looser
Also - Mike - I want to help with your Red One short.
Nick Hillyard - 5 time Sundance looser
Debbie Downer. Why would you post this? Have hope people. I've shot a Sundance feature. My friend Vasco won the grand jury prize in docu. I've had three friends get shorts in. Oh and a script sup friend of mine just got in. My other friends have there feature that screened in Toronto being distributed by Dimension as well.
Believe me. Most of the stuff in Sundance is crap. Occasionally you will see something great. Those 125 films they select can be beaten. Sure I suspect the selection system is corrupt and they play favors just like here in Hollywood. However, if you make a movie that speaks to people then you will find success. Thats not to say it takes a TON of dedication, networking, passion and hard hard hard work and if you don't try then you will never know. But make sure it's a raging volcano inside you. Because thats what it takes. Woody Allen says.....talent is not the most important thing. It's courage. Don't look at those numbers because they will cripple you and then I won't be able to see your kick ass movie. But then again if you really had it you wouldn't of paid any mind to them anyways.
Believe me. Most of the stuff in Sundance is crap. Occasionally you will see something great. Those 125 films they select can be beaten. Sure I suspect the selection system is corrupt and they play favors just like here in Hollywood. However, if you make a movie that speaks to people then you will find success. Thats not to say it takes a TON of dedication, networking, passion and hard hard hard work and if you don't try then you will never know. But make sure it's a raging volcano inside you. Because thats what it takes. Woody Allen says.....talent is not the most important thing. It's courage. Don't look at those numbers because they will cripple you and then I won't be able to see your kick ass movie. But then again if you really had it you wouldn't of paid any mind to them anyways.
I agree with Mike's post-- Sundance has become a lightning rod for too much misplaced hope. Indies w/no connection to the industry think acceptance will punch their ticket, which of course it doesn't. Besides, in the last few years it's more of an Indiewood fest, far from its roots. The number of submissions tells the story-- I'd like to see a comparison to other fests, the ones without the Hortio Alger stories coming out.
Nothing wrong with hoping, but be wise & keep your eyes open, right?
Nothing wrong with hoping, but be wise & keep your eyes open, right?
I agree. Sundance is corrupt Ryan. But anyone who thinks Sundance is the holy grail of indie film acceptance is smoking crack. Make a good movie. If it's good, it will find it's way.
I think this is why Mike makes one helluva techie and not a film director. To make film, you have to beg, charm, kiss, pay, and pray about every day. There are exactly no days when all of those talents aren't needed and roughly three minutes in all of them when the word codec pops up. In short, I'm psyched to read this blog after Mr Curtis tries his hand at a short; it might, maybe, slow his use of first-person geek tyranny just a small bit. While I am indebted to him for an explanation of all things workflow, I am sorely tired of the patronizing geek that writes articles like this one.
Kevin - which part, exactly, is inaccurate?
I never said I was a filmmaker of any skill.
Just an observer.
-m
I never said I was a filmmaker of any skill.
Just an observer.
-m
I don't mind reading these harsh numbers but the way you phrase some of that stuff is looking at the glass half empty. I agree with not having misplaced hopes of Sundance success or an acceptance launching a career, but Mike never really said.
You can find tangible financial results outside of theatrical distribution or a Sundance entry.
I think the most important thing is what you mentioned at the end. How many of the 121 Sundance Films (or any other indie) make it out to an audience in some format like cable or DVD? I imagine a pretty high, encouraging, percentage.
I live in Phoenix, Arizona, and the choices for theaters are a dozen Harkins which play huge movies like I am Legend or No Country For Old Men. The other option is one, small theater with 4 screens which plays films like There Will Be Blood. The odds of a having theatrical distribution next to any of the titles I listed are small, but I like thinking about it that way instead of how you put.
I find it more interesting that Sundance isn't as important nowadays.
You can find tangible financial results outside of theatrical distribution or a Sundance entry.
I think the most important thing is what you mentioned at the end. How many of the 121 Sundance Films (or any other indie) make it out to an audience in some format like cable or DVD? I imagine a pretty high, encouraging, percentage.
I live in Phoenix, Arizona, and the choices for theaters are a dozen Harkins which play huge movies like I am Legend or No Country For Old Men. The other option is one, small theater with 4 screens which plays films like There Will Be Blood. The odds of a having theatrical distribution next to any of the titles I listed are small, but I like thinking about it that way instead of how you put.
I find it more interesting that Sundance isn't as important nowadays.
Its interesting. Each year the number of submissions to Sundance grows by leaps and bounds over the previous year, and every filmmaker's stomach drops through the floor in despair.
But I think the ratio of submitted to accepted is misleading. The number of high-quality submissions remains pretty fixed, at least according to every film festival programmer I've talked. The vast majority of submissions are actually in the category of 'not-so-good'. While there may have been 5000 shorts submitted to Sundance this year, there were probably about 200-300 that were good enough to be in the running for programming. This was also true five years ago when there were maybe 1200 shorts submitted. So kind of like that whole signal-to-noise ratio thing.
All this new and amazing technology has democratized the art of filmmaking in incredible and unimaginable ways. But democratic filmmaking doesn't mean great films are going to get made, just that they can get made.
And Mike, welcome to the short filmmaking club, I can't wait to see your movie.
Eric
But I think the ratio of submitted to accepted is misleading. The number of high-quality submissions remains pretty fixed, at least according to every film festival programmer I've talked. The vast majority of submissions are actually in the category of 'not-so-good'. While there may have been 5000 shorts submitted to Sundance this year, there were probably about 200-300 that were good enough to be in the running for programming. This was also true five years ago when there were maybe 1200 shorts submitted. So kind of like that whole signal-to-noise ratio thing.
All this new and amazing technology has democratized the art of filmmaking in incredible and unimaginable ways. But democratic filmmaking doesn't mean great films are going to get made, just that they can get made.
And Mike, welcome to the short filmmaking club, I can't wait to see your movie.
Eric
Since when does getting accepted to a festival or getting picked up for studio distribution define success?
This is a really lame post. I always though that "HD for Indies" meant "screw The Man and The Hollywood System, I'm doing it my way."
This is a really lame post. I always though that "HD for Indies" meant "screw The Man and The Hollywood System, I'm doing it my way."
MIke,
I didn't mean to imply there was anything inaccurate to your post. My point was that there's zero reason to drop a bunch of numbers and imply that they amounted to Helms Deep for most indie filmmakers. What was the reason? From time immortal, filmmakers have faced uphill odds. So what? In a perverse way, that alone attracts some people. In times of yore (let's call those Mike's pre-Red days), this blog would have been "OK, these odds are steep, here's how my juju can indies you beat those odds." Now its something else. My two cents worth.
Kevin
&-What I don't get is all the comments bashing Sundance. Sundance is fun. Sundance has a tough, tough job. Sundance has done more for indie film than anything I can think of and all you guy do is bash it? Weak.
I didn't mean to imply there was anything inaccurate to your post. My point was that there's zero reason to drop a bunch of numbers and imply that they amounted to Helms Deep for most indie filmmakers. What was the reason? From time immortal, filmmakers have faced uphill odds. So what? In a perverse way, that alone attracts some people. In times of yore (let's call those Mike's pre-Red days), this blog would have been "OK, these odds are steep, here's how my juju can indies you beat those odds." Now its something else. My two cents worth.
Kevin
&-What I don't get is all the comments bashing Sundance. Sundance is fun. Sundance has a tough, tough job. Sundance has done more for indie film than anything I can think of and all you guy do is bash it? Weak.
Kevin - fair enough.
The odds are tough. And as others have stated or implied, they aren't as bad as it looks. There's a LOT of lame submissions out there. And the commenter that stated that the number of quality submissions is about the same? That makes sense to me - I could see quality submissions going up SOME, but not on track with overall submissions.
The juju I'd suggest - plan, plan, plan like a BMF; have a GREAT script, Stay On Target, have a good technical plan in place so you don't have to worry about codecs on set for more than 3 seconds a day (that stuff should alllllll be resolved before you record your first frame!), etc.
The flip side is MOST movies are weak. Make one that rocks. Take Juno for instance - they just let'er rip, and it ROCKS for that reason. The storyline is pretty tame - teen pregnancy, decides to adopt, falls back in love with boyfriend - with that log line, my stomach aches from Movie Of The Week syndrome. But their attitude, and OMFG - the DIALOG - makes that movie SING. Lines like "Honest to blog!" and music with lyrics like "my mp3-dvd-rumble-pack guitar" made me LOVE THIS movie. Is all about the attitude. The cinematography? Lighting? Sound design? I dunno, I never really noticed them, so they quietly and professionally did their job right. But it is the script, and acting, and that actress in particular that made it a winner.
Making a movie that just plain fucking RAWKS? THAT takes Nerves of Steel, Balls of Brass (or metric female equivalent), and Heaps O' Determination.
: )
-mike
The odds are tough. And as others have stated or implied, they aren't as bad as it looks. There's a LOT of lame submissions out there. And the commenter that stated that the number of quality submissions is about the same? That makes sense to me - I could see quality submissions going up SOME, but not on track with overall submissions.
The juju I'd suggest - plan, plan, plan like a BMF; have a GREAT script, Stay On Target, have a good technical plan in place so you don't have to worry about codecs on set for more than 3 seconds a day (that stuff should alllllll be resolved before you record your first frame!), etc.
The flip side is MOST movies are weak. Make one that rocks. Take Juno for instance - they just let'er rip, and it ROCKS for that reason. The storyline is pretty tame - teen pregnancy, decides to adopt, falls back in love with boyfriend - with that log line, my stomach aches from Movie Of The Week syndrome. But their attitude, and OMFG - the DIALOG - makes that movie SING. Lines like "Honest to blog!" and music with lyrics like "my mp3-dvd-rumble-pack guitar" made me LOVE THIS movie. Is all about the attitude. The cinematography? Lighting? Sound design? I dunno, I never really noticed them, so they quietly and professionally did their job right. But it is the script, and acting, and that actress in particular that made it a winner.
Making a movie that just plain fucking RAWKS? THAT takes Nerves of Steel, Balls of Brass (or metric female equivalent), and Heaps O' Determination.
: )
-mike
And whilst I was a bit cranky when I wrote it, my intent was to be Zen about it - the making and finishing of the movie should be a BIG chunk of the reward.
Don't count on financial rewards to consider it a successful adventure was my point.
There, am I closer to half full now?
: )
-mike
Don't count on financial rewards to consider it a successful adventure was my point.
There, am I closer to half full now?
: )
-mike
Hi,
This is my first post here though I've had my fill of Red One and general camera\filming info.
I'm a screenwriter - almost - but in general love everything about the cinematic pursuit.
I would certainly love to put pen to pad for you in exchange for use of your camera - or even just for the adventure.
Currently a NYer but working on moving this summer.
This is my first post here though I've had my fill of Red One and general camera\filming info.
I'm a screenwriter - almost - but in general love everything about the cinematic pursuit.
I would certainly love to put pen to pad for you in exchange for use of your camera - or even just for the adventure.
Currently a NYer but working on moving this summer.
Yeah, Sundance is hard to get in to, but I don't think (well, I hope) people aren't basing their films entire budget and marketing plan on getting in Sundance. There's enough film fests out there that if your film is truly up to snuff and happens to capture people's attention, it'll get shown somewhere. From there you can build up to more "prestigious" fests, or just screw it and go for the distribution deal. Hopefully getting shown at Sundance isn't the end goal, but rather an optional step.
Oh and I can volunteer to work on your short when you're ready, and barring any schedule conflicts of course. It's been too long since I've done any short film work, and I'd love the opportunity to oogle expensive, shiny, new toys. =)
Oh and I can volunteer to work on your short when you're ready, and barring any schedule conflicts of course. It's been too long since I've done any short film work, and I'd love the opportunity to oogle expensive, shiny, new toys. =)
You know the aspect of this that no one ever brings up is this: Who the can afford to take the 2 or so years off to make a movie?
Also, the economics of it are so so so horrible. I mean, how many people are you underpaying and on some level exploiting to get your movie made? If their friends it's fine but what about all those unpaid interns and underpaid PA's?
Even if you're not financially well off, you better have strong connections that are, and even if you could get everything for free, how can you afford to not work for such a long period of time? And name one job in the industry that's going to allow you to work on side projects.
If you have money in the family, you can probably do this, but what if you're not?
It seems to me, that there's just a strong bias towards people who already have money, and what does it say bout the art form if the price of entry is so high that only the richest get so say anything?
Of course there are exceptions, but they are pretty few and far between.
While everyone has been talking of the democratization that digital brings, it seems to me, that in someways it has flooded the market so much that only those with money and connections can make it anywhere.
Try getting your movie somewhere without a star or a publicist these days. Would "Pi" get anywhere today? I hope so, but I'm not so sure...
Also, the economics of it are so so so horrible. I mean, how many people are you underpaying and on some level exploiting to get your movie made? If their friends it's fine but what about all those unpaid interns and underpaid PA's?
Even if you're not financially well off, you better have strong connections that are, and even if you could get everything for free, how can you afford to not work for such a long period of time? And name one job in the industry that's going to allow you to work on side projects.
If you have money in the family, you can probably do this, but what if you're not?
It seems to me, that there's just a strong bias towards people who already have money, and what does it say bout the art form if the price of entry is so high that only the richest get so say anything?
Of course there are exceptions, but they are pretty few and far between.
While everyone has been talking of the democratization that digital brings, it seems to me, that in someways it has flooded the market so much that only those with money and connections can make it anywhere.
Try getting your movie somewhere without a star or a publicist these days. Would "Pi" get anywhere today? I hope so, but I'm not so sure...
I love this blog. Thanks Mike.
It's important to know the numbers to have an accurate idea of how hard we have to work.
Murray
It's important to know the numbers to have an accurate idea of how hard we have to work.
Murray
Juno was written in a Starbucks next to a Target by a former stripper in Minneapolis. She is also a blogger. But her claim to fame was quitting a successful copywriting job in Minnesota, that day going to an open mic type event for stripers, and then writing a book about her year as a striper(not juno). If that isn't personal sacrifice and artistic integrity then I don't know what is. She definitely didn't have money. But thats where the life source is. And if that kind of connection with the human experience is in your movies then people will respond.
You can't think Sundance Math, too poor, only the privelaged thinking otherwise you have already lost.
A screenwriter friend of Diablo Cody's and mine who may be soon equally as successful as Juno and her once said to me, "You have to be optimistically naive". Referring to the business. And she's right. I've been jaded as all hell and that is complete and total death in this business. Just f*&^ing do it. Only select few will be able to do it and I suppose that's the real math to be looking at here.
You can't think Sundance Math, too poor, only the privelaged thinking otherwise you have already lost.
A screenwriter friend of Diablo Cody's and mine who may be soon equally as successful as Juno and her once said to me, "You have to be optimistically naive". Referring to the business. And she's right. I've been jaded as all hell and that is complete and total death in this business. Just f*&^ing do it. Only select few will be able to do it and I suppose that's the real math to be looking at here.
Hey, thanks a lot. I've been studying the art of film making seriously for about a year and the craft of writing the same.
I would love to work with someone as experienced as you to hone my skills in visualization and directing.
I'll definitely keep in touch. I have two shorts done and one I'm currently working on.
That one will probably come first as it's the "smallest" in terms of logistics and sets.
See ya around. And if you want to talk writing visit my blog. I'm thinking about starting to analyze scripts that were successful and unsuccessful.
I would love to work with someone as experienced as you to hone my skills in visualization and directing.
I'll definitely keep in touch. I have two shorts done and one I'm currently working on.
That one will probably come first as it's the "smallest" in terms of logistics and sets.
See ya around. And if you want to talk writing visit my blog. I'm thinking about starting to analyze scripts that were successful and unsuccessful.
Yeah - sorry to chip in with the debbie downer thing, but the Juno thing isn't even a good example as an "indie" flick.
For one - screenwriter was already an established author. For two - the movie stars someone who's already been in another big movie and on a popular TV show. Oh yeah, and it's directed by a guy who's dad is a big time hollywood producer.
I think that if you're really gung ho about the idea for a screenplay, seems like your best bet is to turn it into a book. THEN make a movie out of it.
And for the record - I've a had a couple of shorts in Sundance. It was a great honor and kicked ass but as far as anything directly kick starting my career? Nada.
But keep hope alive.
For one - screenwriter was already an established author. For two - the movie stars someone who's already been in another big movie and on a popular TV show. Oh yeah, and it's directed by a guy who's dad is a big time hollywood producer.
I think that if you're really gung ho about the idea for a screenplay, seems like your best bet is to turn it into a book. THEN make a movie out of it.
And for the record - I've a had a couple of shorts in Sundance. It was a great honor and kicked ass but as far as anything directly kick starting my career? Nada.
But keep hope alive.
Juno is this years little miss sunshine, or another example of how Indie Movies have become just as predictable as mainstream hollywood fare. Does I carez??? Noes!!11! If anything it totally demostrates what a crapshoot "indie" movie making is... Like, sure -- If I could grab a hot script from a hot up and coming writer and get an "indie" company to finance it with a clear plan of a stepped theatrical release with a marketing plan that worked on last years "small" movie I would probably do pretty well -- but my Dad's in finance at an aerospace company... guess I will have to figure something else out! BOOO HOOOOO!!!!
I don't see what's wrong w/letting people know what the odds really are. I mean, I'd rather go in knowing I have a snow ball's chance in hell rather than falsely pinning all my hopes and dreams onto success via Sundance.
At least for me part of the reason I'm in this business (and the primary reason I'm in LA) is because of the challenge. Odds are I will fail but I keep going anyway. It's like climbing Mount Everest, if it was easy everyone would do it and getting to the top wouldn't mean all that much.
-Andrew
At least for me part of the reason I'm in this business (and the primary reason I'm in LA) is because of the challenge. Odds are I will fail but I keep going anyway. It's like climbing Mount Everest, if it was easy everyone would do it and getting to the top wouldn't mean all that much.
-Andrew
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